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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 17, 2017 1:16:10 GMT -6
I could have sworn I saw a little bit of footage from that a long time ago. I remember because of the horrendous Godhead playing on stage. I don't know maybe it was on the DVD? The reverse side? No that's the film score. Okay nevermind. It's an easter egg on the dvd, so yeah.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 16, 2017 19:28:12 GMT -6
I intended to watch that but got the dates mixed up and missed it. But after I saw the movie I didn't mind anymore. I remember it didn't work right. I actually caught a small part of it. Kim Director was in character as Kim Diamond. I think she was answering questions that were being asked in a chat room of some sort.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 16, 2017 18:53:58 GMT -6
Jeff was looking up her skirt. "Children... looking up my skirt as I twirled round and round. So I hurt them."
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 16, 2017 18:50:17 GMT -6
There was a Rustin Parr Halloween mask. One guy bought it. Kinda looks like Edgar Allan Poe grew a full mustache, left his scruff and continued to be just as utterly depressed as he always was...
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 16, 2017 0:51:02 GMT -6
First off, the whole hysteria angle is false. Agree. Do you believe the Blair Witch Walk gutted themselves? Err, never stated that. I fully believe that the Hunt killed the Walk under the influence of the evil. I also believe that Jeff killed Erica, Kim killed Peggy and Stephen (obviously) killed Tristen, again all under the influence of the evil. Of course the evil messed with the tapes a little bit here and there! But it MOSTLY messed with all their minds from the foundation arrival onward. Again, I agree. I suppose we may be on different levels with the term 'messed with' though. By 'messed with' I imagined that the evil was not allowing them to remember certain events (the lost hours, the following murders) as well as triggering visions and sounds, making the group hostile towards one another, etc. However, I viewed most of what we saw (outside of the tapes, and things that clearly were not visions- i.e. Jeff frying, Treacle, Erica's ghost, etc.) as having actually happened to our group. They were marked up, the bridge did collapse, the files were there. For the sake of argument, I believe Kim killed Peggy after her confrontation, but the evil had altered the footage. The files were placed there in their minds for them to find. OMG. Do I have to explain literally everything? So was the bridge collapse. It only happened in their minds. Uh, that would be hysteria then. Not buying it. Furthermore, I already explained how the file thing would be impossible no matter how you try to spin it. You really need to start experiencing this whole thing from a new angle, because if you never decide to it's going to drive you batty. It's not, actually. Just as you feel confident and fine with your conclusion of events, I do with mine. And Jeff's little off handed quote is actually the key to understanding the whole movie. It would be if they hand't left in so many contradictions to it. Yet they did, so it is no longer an acceptable catch-all. Again, hysteria is bull. And so is Tristen's quote "perception is reality". Both she and her boyfriend were both proven to be full of s h i t. How were they proven to be f.o.s.? And Jeff wasn't f.o.s. somehow? The ghost of Eileen Treacle warned both Tristen and Stephen from her own grave which they had both stood at while Kim literally lounged upon it. YOU BROUGHT IT BACK WITH YOU ! And? Erica said the same thing when Kim came to check on her before going on a beer run. I'm not arguing that they brought the evil back with them. That is clearly obvious. What I'm arguing is what they experienced versus what we are to believe.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 23:39:53 GMT -6
haha. you have a record player. I actually do (a nice one that I can rip records with), but I never use it. Instead, I just scour youtube for others who've beaten me to the punch. I already spend a fortune on shirts from Fright Rags, no telling how crazy I'd go if I started collecting records as well.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 23:25:37 GMT -6
Yes, I listen to a lot of movie scores... for some reason a lot of them are vinyl.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 22:43:57 GMT -6
How am I being a mono-maniacal reductionist? Bhh, what exactly are you so disagreeable about? The main plot? I already have it figured out. I had it figured out over a year ago. But it took me like 16 years. Everything except for what the real evil is but we've already agreed that it's just an ancient evil of the forest using Elly Kedward's tale. But still, I know I'm right. But please list your problems but with paragraphs this time.Oh.. and I already told you that the knives and the candles and the skull are all part of Erica's chant toys she brought along with her. Okay. My problem with the main plot is the holes and contradictions. My problem with your version of the plot is simply that I hold a different view. -The idea behind believing film (their tapes) over video (everything else we see) is interesting, but it is a shoddy plot device because it was not used at the very beginning (and I mean opening scenes with the group in the van) nor at the very end (and, to an extent, I can understand that because they wanted us to understand what was going on, but still shoddy). This logic is even used in the draft script but it still contradicts itself. Aside from the oak (which plays into hysteria) and the guy working on the cooler who looks a smidgen like Rustin Parr (he's even credited as being Rustin Parr), we see nothing truly odd going on until after the tour group wakes up the next morning. That is when we are supposed to start questioning the film's lies and wondering what happened in those lost five hours. And, again, as I have mentioned a few times, we are suddenly supposed to believe all we are seeing on film once the group is arrested. If it was hysteria, that's not how it works. It if was the witch/evil, why the hell would it suddenly just stop messing with them at that point?! -The idea of history (the witch/evil and a curse of some sort being real) vs. hysteria (don't believe video because it lies) is usually seen as hysteria taking the cake overall. In order for hysteria to actually occur there has to be some sort of fear or psychological stress to trigger it; it doesn't just happen out of the blue. There is always a patient zero for these things as well. We never get group hysteria all of the sudden; it grows, spreading from one to others. The 'history' all starts with that tree in the Parr house foundation. Our group of protagonists all saw the huge oak right away, even scoffing at Jeff when he tried to tell them it was never there before. No fear, no stress, they were all having a good time before that. Later on in the tape (the truth), it shows a small twig of a tree there and not the huge oak. Something is messing with them, and it could be altering the tapes as well. Speaking of those... -The tapes. We have pointed out numerous instances in which this device is improperly used. These are supposed to be our only truth and lead us to decide that hysteria is what has overtaken the group. However, we see snippets of footage intersected into one another, blips of images that occur between stints of static, shots of the other tour group, gutted on Coffin Rock from a high angle. Who would edit that? Who would film the murder scene or set the camera up for it? You can't say it's hysteria because the tapes are supposed to never lie. -The files. These scream that there is something else at work in the film. Not only do we see them when Kim discovers them (which could be argued as hysteria), but yet again during the interrogation scenes (which we are supposed to believe). The detective tells Stephen they've been looking into his background just before they fling his folder at him, and inside is the exact same pictures and documents we see from the file at Jeff's house. They are the same folders. Hysteria can't predict something like that so precisely. Now, it can be counter-argued that Jeff put them together (it points to that conclusion in the dossier, citing his handwriting is all over them), but seriously? He put this group together in less than a month (dossier dates cite conversation with various group members around mid-September) and they are the ones who signed up; he didn't seek them out. Jeff's no sleuth, and even a veteran detective would take months to get all the information and (hard-copy) pictures he had of all of them. (btw, those files read the actors' real names, possibly when the script called for the use of them just like in the first film) -Jeff's quote. The oft-used quote to cement what is happening in the film, spoken by Jeff as he hits on Kim: "Video never lies, Kim. Film does, though." Wholly overused when it contradicts itself (and, we supposed to believe in a quote by someone who we are constantly reminded is schizophrenic?). Why take what one character says at face value but ignore what could be an equally true statement from another? I'll keep quoting Tristen in the same camp scene because what she says holds just as much ground as far as I'm concerned: "Perception is reality." Their perception is our reality. There are likely other things that I am forgetting, but these five are a pretty good start.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 21:24:44 GMT -6
BHH. VIDEO NEVER LIES. FILM DOES THOUGH. "Because if people believe something enough, isn't it real? Perception is reality." Also... you're now being a monomaniacal reductionist.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 21:12:05 GMT -6
Hell, like I had asked in another post, where did the bag-o-knives come from?! Who lit all those damn candles and who brought 'em? There's no one else there!!! Who's doing the camera work? I was gonna go with the owl until I remembered Tristen was also filmed dancing around with its body... ... so I'll just say it was the evil filming everything after that. (I also love how we (the audience) are supposed to take everything we see outside of the tapes with a huge grain of salt... until after they are arrested- then we are supposed to believe everything we see)
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 21:04:42 GMT -6
Haven't watched TWD since, jeez... over a year now? Yeah. I'll get back to it sometime, but it was feeling a little stale the last time I watched. Gonna get back into FTWD as well. But, just got this in the mail today and, seriously, it's like I'm a kid at Christmas: Little known gem, but I assure you it is as good as it gets. I already had the first season when they released it on DVD back in 2005 (after having waited for years for some kind of release; my VHS tapes were getting worn out) and feared that the best I would ever get for S2 would be the low-quality TV rips I managed to nab on iOffer. Shout Factory is a godsend. This is by far my favorite TV show ever. I mean, I'm stopping my Hitchhiker marathon for it.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 20:51:52 GMT -6
I hear they're remaking this. Bad idea. Yeah, I had to add that to my 'don't remake' list... they didn't listen (here's hoping it hits a dead end in preproduction. again).
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 20:38:22 GMT -6
...and there's no indication they even took anything except for beer out there. And, when they're all hiking to the ruins, you don't see any of them really carrying any beer, yet Kim is lugging a case of Moosehead (that's way too big to have fit in any of their backpacks) around the foundation later on.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 15, 2017 19:37:19 GMT -6
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 14, 2017 16:31:33 GMT -6
Maniac Cop 1 & 2 I'd watched these years ago, but s--t... that was years ago. If you can ignore the fact that the plots have major holes in them (which is actually hard for me not to continually dissect as I watch a movie), these are pretty fun to watch. They don't drag in many areas, and if they do it is only for a minute, and they keep appearances from our Maniac Cop pretty frequent in their 90-minute spans. They take themselves seriously, but are directed and edited in a way that lets you know everyone knew they were making b-movies, and it just works. Somehow it just works. The only thing I really took issue with was making Det. Sean McKinney the 'hero' of the second movie. I mean, no offense to the actor, but the character is boring and about as likable as dog s--t. Hell, he didn't actually interact with Cordell at all. Maniac Cop 3 Just plain horrid. It wasn't just parts of the plot that made no sense this time; the whole damn thing was a mess! They had absolutely no idea what they wanted to do with this sequel. Also, spending about 30 seconds watching Cordell sexually assault a woman in a coma was just f--ked up. It should have stopped with the second one, which seemed to finish up the story nicely. I will say that this did produce a very funny piece of dialogue after a hospital escape results in three more dead bodies: "Oh great- I shot my lawyer." "f--k 'em. Get another one; they're free." EDIT: This actually sums up why part 3 was such a mess...
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 12, 2017 0:32:15 GMT -6
Can I revive this thread? Eh, screw it. I'm gonna revive this, cause I'm watching lost gems from my childhood in the form of The Hitchhiker. (okay, so maybe I just remember stuff from the last season and some reruns on USA, but I still remember dammit!)
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 12, 2017 0:27:31 GMT -6
The Lost World is by far the worst. JP III was better. JP III was also better than JW. ... .. . This is why we could never watch movies together...
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 12, 2017 0:25:43 GMT -6
Best worst line in a movie ever. My vote goes for either "Garbage day!" (his eyebrows are a strong supporting cast in the scene) Or... pretty much anything from Troll 2. (in the last bit, you can clearly see that his acting is so shit that even flies are attracted to him)
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 11, 2017 13:14:55 GMT -6
Question: You claim that Joe Berlinger wanted the song "Black Magic" by Frank Sinatra to play during the opening of the film. In the commentary track Berlinger say that he wanted "Witchcraft" (a song also by Frank Sinatra). So did you just make a mistake? Yep. I made a few putting this together, but that one's a mystery as to how I even did it. Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. Also, thanks for confirmation on DeCou.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 9, 2017 15:48:42 GMT -6
Much like the Ghost Edition, I applaud your efforts to remove most of the asylum scenes. They were simply tacky and not needed. There are plenty of references to Jeff's past without the need of those scenes.Similar feeling to the removal of the gore scenes depicting the demise of the other tour group. There is more than enough left in for us to know they're dead and something really bad made it happen. Furthermore, I really enjoyed the inserted title cards that tell Jeff's backstory to the audience. It was a nice touch that really added to the character the feeling of unease about him. Random note: Even though Berlinger preferred Frank Sinatra's 'Witchcraft', I always thought Donovan's 'Season of the Witch' would have worked on the same level and definitely would have set an odd air of confusion even better. Shifting the scene where Tristen tells Stephen about her dream where she hurt the baby to just before he and Erica have their fantasy make-out is a well-placed move, as it works well on many levels. He just found out some devastating news, it may have tarnished his love for his girlfriend somewhat and it is an opportune time for Erica to make her move when the damage is still fresh. The end segment, the interrogation scenes, were all spliced together perfectly; it felt smooth, flawless and just like it should have. I didn't think they could all be spliced together in a seamless way, but you certainly did it. Bravo! Interestingly enough, I'm not a huge fan of the color correction. It's not that it doesn't look good, cause it really does overall, but an unfortunate consequence of it is that it makes (almost) everyone look like they have a Donald Trump tan. In Kim's case, it just looks like she decided to forego the white makeup (until you see how red her hands are). I was under the assumption that I would get used to it after about 10-20 minutes, but it just kept appearing comical throughout and somewhat distracting as a result. This is likely just me, though. Overall I think your cut is fantastic and, to echo ghostprints' words, a cut worthy of the director's vision (I'm a little sad about the removal of Haunted from the end credits, but still fantastic all in all).
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 9, 2017 15:26:15 GMT -6
There was really lesbo stuff in the original script ? Yes siree... and then the gross-out moment where Tristen has continued to bleed out all over the mattress.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 9, 2017 14:53:52 GMT -6
And I walked into my double feature Geostorm movie and there was no one else in the theater so no tickets were sold. That worked for the first 20 minutes until suddenly the audio shut off and then the screen shut off and the lights came on. Same thing happened to my nephew and I a few years back. The movie theater near my house is almost always a ghost town, save for opening day for some movies, so it isn't a big surprise when we find ourselves as the only two in the room for a film. When they stopped playing our movie and turned on the lights, we went to the front and told them to either give us our money back or start the film again. They were not too thrilled with the first option.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 8, 2017 23:25:40 GMT -6
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 8, 2017 23:19:25 GMT -6
Jurassic World
I'm pretty late to the party on this one, but I am seemingly falling behind on movies more and more as the years go by. Anyway, I found this entry thoroughly enjoyable. Aside from the Easter eggs to past entries strewn throughout, I also felt like there were numerous elements from the other movies used as plot devices throughout. The sibling connection (though nowhere near as powerful or engaging as from the original), the employee betrayal felt very Nedry, as did Hoskins and Co. feeling very similar to Tembo and his team from Lost World (only, in the end, Tembo succeeded, unlike Hoskins), the disconnected family elements from 3 were everywhere in this, either with the not-so-connected-with-her-family-Aunt looking for her nephews or the subtle reminders that there was family outside of the island as well.
The only thing this entry needed to really throw it over the top was some Jeff Goldblum. Alas, we didn't get that (aside from an appearance by his novel), but the next film looks to be correcting that mistake.
Overall, I would rate this as a tie for second spot on my ranking list, being equal to The Lost World for me. I doubt anything will beat the feel of the original, and I certainly hope nothing ever sinks to the depths that part 3 fell to.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 8, 2017 18:04:09 GMT -6
Reminds me of the gem I found on thebest404pageever years and years ago:
And, of course, the man with so much funk and dance in him it spans across movies:
I have no shame in admitting that I will ball like a baby the day that man passes away.
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