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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 11:33:45 GMT -6
November 99 is four months after July 99.. not nine. In this cut both Cravens and Kim still mention that Jeff was already in the looney bin, regardless of looney bin footage having been removed. And seriously, place Tristen's crazy bedroom scene BEFORE the 'Erica is outside/ bridge collapse' scene. Your #11 - what are you referring to? Because in my #11 I was referring to Tristen's five seconds of back to front swinging motion being removed. It doesn't matter to me if you never fix it, because if you don't I will end up fixing it for myself later anyway
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 11:39:47 GMT -6
placing the shot of Stephen holding his hands over his face at the end and putting in place the swinging motion scenes at the front there. this is what I meant on 11. later I will upload a sample.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 11:44:55 GMT -6
That might actually work because at first Tristen is back and forth and then ends up in a twirling motion unto the voice of Dina, the all knowing reporter.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 11:46:53 GMT -6
That might actually work because at first Tristen is back and forth and then ends up in a twirling motion unto the voice of Dina, the all knowing reporter. We may have finally come to a real fix without sacrificing footage.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 17:36:36 GMT -6
I must see before I believe, but I also believe your idea can work perfectly. And so ... DEAD AHEAD!
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 20:26:45 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 21:07:27 GMT -6
You just literally NAILED IT.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:16:38 GMT -6
awesome. I was messing around with swapping the scenes you mentioned, however there is one issue. Later in the following scene (right before jeff's hallway shot) we see him spying on them in the camera / monitors. It makes it a lot harder to do.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:20:12 GMT -6
I am taking a break for a day or two before I continue working on the v2 edits, but I will see what I can do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 21:29:16 GMT -6
I see what you're saying.
Eliminate the spying by cutting directly to the exact moment JUST BEFORE "Jeff, listen, I'm really worried about Tristen" (just after Jeff spins around in his chair to face Kim)
This does require around 8 seconds of footage removal, which you are against, so never mind. Just leave it.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:32:16 GMT -6
It's doable, but takes some of the mystery away from Jeff. Could always just change what is being displayed on the monitor.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 21:34:30 GMT -6
Being willing to remove things is part of fan editing. You're willing to add things but not willing to remove anything which makes it very difficult. That's probably the hardest way to fan edit that there is. It's like tying your hands behind your back.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:35:01 GMT -6
that rule was more in place for the 'extended' cut.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:42:18 GMT -6
at least we have the hanging scene fixed for now. I already pretty much changed it all over.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 21:44:43 GMT -6
Believe me or not, what you accomplished right there was choice AF.
I say that because even I couldn't figure it out to that degree. We actually figured that one out together (in a way)
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:46:56 GMT -6
did you notice I reversed the Stephen part so it matched the motions of her last shot twirling?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 21:48:04 GMT -6
Yes. Barely but it wasn't enough. I didn't notice it until I'd watched it three or four times to figure out if I was crazy or not.
It's all about having extreme attention to detail.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:51:58 GMT -6
that scene was like a puzzle. so annoying but glad it's 100% fine now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 21:55:27 GMT -6
The hanging? Yeah. OMG dude.
I didn't mean to put you through that but I think you learned something from it. Many things are possible that we never think is possible until we realize it's in fact possible.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 21:57:33 GMT -6
haha yes. I want to make the Artisan edit the go-to fan edit for this movie, next to extended cut. Whatever it takes! i'm quite happy with it overall though, it's so different to the theatrical cut now it's crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 21:59:38 GMT -6
Nah...
It's a director's cut instead of a personal cut. Obviously you haven't truly watched mine. Because mine is leaps and bounds different from the studio cut and the director's script cut.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 22:04:39 GMT -6
I have in fact watched your edit last year.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 22:17:34 GMT -6
do you prefer Artisan removal cut or extended berlinger?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 22:22:15 GMT -6
I've been torn on that question. I was thinking about it today. Because to me they're very similar so it's hard to decide. As I've said before I don't have a problem with Jeff's asylum flashbacks except for the force feeding in the beginning. Even your extended cut removed all the tour group massacre until the coffee pot TV roll post credit scene.
I don't know man, because they're very similar to one another.
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Post by Paxtn on Aug 15, 2022 22:25:11 GMT -6
I could potentially wrap your edit in higher quality footage sometime after Artisan cut is finally complete.
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