WITCHCRAFT- elly not a witch

[BlairDarkness]

well seing alot of you people think witchcraft is the work of the devil. i'll tell ya are side of it!
we love earth and every thing on it. we dont believe in hurting others and are at one with ourselves. we dont worship the devil, that is just one of the thing the chirstians did in the middle ages to convert them to there church dogma, just like the witch trials. they tryed to get others to fear us and hate us on false knowledge. so please stop calling us the devils servants please. i dont thing elly kedward was a witch for those reasons, i think that the evil in that forest did something to her and maybe helped her get her revenge.

[Saitee]

[glow=red,2,300]Not all witch craft is the work of the devil, I'm a wicken(how ever you spell it) and I practice a lot of magic[/glow]

[BlairDarkness]

Saitee said:

[glow=red,2,300]Not all witch craft is the work of the devil, I'm a wicken(how ever you spell it) and I practice a lot of magic[/glow]

i am 2, by the way is wicca/ wiccan.

[Craig]

BlairDarkness and Saitee,

Tell me more about being a wiccan. I only know very little. Is it related to druidism in some way? what types of magic do you practice?

[BlairDarkness]

Craig said:

BlairDarkness and Saitee,

Tell me more about being a wiccan. I only know very little. Is it related to druidism in some way? what types of magic do you practice?

a wich realizes certain powers, represents them, rather than worships them. ivokes them; fuses with them, emotes and lives them; recognizes them in the vast forces of nature and beyond. i live by the earth, i love it for its creation of life. i myself am mostly into earth magick and divination. divination i do many forms of: rune readings, dream scrying, tarot, tasseomancy(still learning) and others. i love and live by the earth, moon, sun, and stars.

[Craig]

Thank you for the info. Do you read tarot for other people? My uncle was into tarot reading. On the day he died he requested that we burn his tarot cards so as to set his soul free. I don't know if that was a lot of bologni or if it was letgit. I think there is legitimacy in divination if you know what you are doing. Tell me more if you wish to do so.
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[ShiningMoon]

My uncle was into tarot reading. On the day he died he requested that we burn his tarot cards so as to set his soul free. I don't know if that was a lot of bologni or if it was letgit


Oooh that's a load of baloney! It's thought that people who read the Tarot (like me) use it as a tool to access their higher consiousness. Sort of like we all have the answers to the questions - the tarot helps us to express them.

There are tarot readers who do use their physic ability to sense the future. Can't really comment on that as I don't use the tarot that way.

I'm sorry to here about your uncle by the way.. but rest assured he's not in the cards.

Vix

[Craig]

Thanks for the clarification. By the way, I've been to readers who could not tell straight up from straight down regarding anything about me. They try to guess my profession by some physical trait I have or something like that I'm sure. Or they say some general thing that could apply to just about anyone... for instance, one told me there is a man in my family with brown hair and blue eyes that will be having health problems soon. Come on now, how many people could that apply to? It will be hard to convince me most of them are not phonies. How can you find someone legitimate?

[ShiningMoon]

Reputation is the best way I would say Craig- hopefully from a friend who you know to be level headed and logical !
But, you're right really. Who is to know whether any of the tarot readers advertised in all those ads are the real deal? Cos as sure as eggs are eggs there are frauds out there.
What you are describing is cold reading, except the person who you went to dosn't appear to be that good at it! I've seen cold readers 'appear' as if they are psychic, astounding expert and laymen alike. But they're nothing more than your David Copperfields and David Blaines. Or over here (UK) we have Derren Brown.
That said, I do belive there are genuine readers out there though....

Vix

[Craig]

Thank you ShiningMoon, I think that some people have had experiences in their life which alluded them to believe they are gifted in that field but really are not or at least not very good at it. I'm sure there are those who have a gift. I don't think it is something you can practice at but I could be wrong. It's like singing, you can take all the voice lessons you want but if the voice isn't there you're just pipe dreaming.

[ShiningMoon]

Possibly Craig....I do agree with you in parts here. I think everyone has the ability to open up to the psychic part of themselves.. but i don't think everyone has the potential to be magnificent tarot readers.

But it's like anything in life, some people have a very good sense of deluding themselves! Poor buggers!

[BlairDarkness]

so you people sound interested in tarot, me myself i read RUNES instead. i find they have a stronger power then tarot with me. but then it could be the fact that there norse and i am part norse, plus the whole histry behind the runes is rather interesting.

[Craig]

ShiningMoon,

Do you have to be present with someone to read tarot or could yo do it over the internet?

[ShiningMoon]

It should be possible to do one over the internet... would you like a reading Craig?

[o0oKristeno0o]

[glow=purple,2,300]I would love to become a wiccan. I find magic and spirits and all of that so interesting and so awesome...it's just...I don't know what to do lol. Oh well. [/glow]

[Scardy]

I researched wicca for a good long time. You should read your own cards, it works better. I have my own set, but I'm still figuring them out. As for Wicca, I believe in it more than Iever believed any otherreligion, but, unfortunatly or fortunately, that isn't saying much. If you want to becoea wiccan, research it. I read a bunch of wonderful books. One thing they suggested was creating a grimore, where you write down the things you discover during your research.

[Ghettobaby310]

i wish i could become a wiccan but how do u start

[Babygirl6790]

i dont think witchcraft is work of the devil i think people think thats what witchcraft iz ...

[Plasticpoet7]

Ok, let me clear some things up for ALLLL of you.

I'm a witch. But that doesn't mean I'm a Wiccan.
Wicca is a sect of Witchcraft and Paganism.
All Wiccans are witches, but not all witches are Wiccan.

Witches, even found in the paleolythic (sp?) era were polytheistic, meaning they believe in multiple gods/godesses.

Now during the Renaissance era, witchcraft and Paganism in general
conflicted with the beliefs of the Christian church (naturally) and was then for the first time, thousands of years after the original formation of witchcraft, was associated with the Christian devil. After the "burning times," witches who ate children, and lived in fantasy worlds started to show up in fairy tales for children to scare them, and no longer were seen as a serious religion. The reason why people tell you Witchcraft isn't real originated in Italy where they felt they needed to look to Science. What they didn't know, is weather they believed in witchery or not as a literal force, witches were still religious figures since the stone age. Look back in history. In modern times, it's seen as a New Age religion for kooks, but really it's an old religion.

Wicca is about attuning yourself to nature, the phases of the cosmos, and the spiritual world. It's called Right hand religion.

NOW----

Satanism.

Wiccans will tell you it doesn't exist, or it has nothing to do with Wicca. They're right. It doesn't have to do with it.

BUT

Satanism is an underground modern movement that's gone through phases. In history Satanic worship was a lot less commonly found than people believed, but it DID exist, and there are theistic Satanists out there then, and now. (Theistic means the literal belief in Satan) although modern Satanism (ignoring the Temple of Set) ignited by Anton Svander Lavey (inspired by famous occultist Aliester Crowley) also has claims to Left hand Witchcraft. The Church of Satan is a commercial group who don't ACTUALLY base their beliefs on the devil, but rather on the myth of Lucifer the god of light.

Now all this goes way deeper.

The Blair witch (as much as I love it) is a complete and utter work of fiction, inspired by darker roots of witchcraft found in history. The things Elly Kedward did were common accusations from the ignorant, but some WERE actual practices within witchery, commonly found in the rare organizations of Satanism.

Perhaps if you are interested in learning Wicca and Paganism, (most common found) you can do your reasearch at a book store, (look under metaphysics/philosiphy/religion) next the Astrology, I bet you'll find TONS, even in mainstream bookstores. Or drop by your local metaphyisics shop, take the initiative, those who walk the path of the craft will find spiritual fulfillment unlike any other religion--if that's what you're looking for. But also some witches discover themselves, even non believers, through research.

Now if you're interested in the concept/practice of Satanism, The Satanic Bible, Satanic Witch, Satanic Rituals, and Necronaminicon are all available.

Deviant figures in history who are REAL and resemble the Blair witch could be the likes of theistic Satanist (Witch/Vampyre) Elizabeth Bathory. A countess in Germany who took the lives of many young girls in ritual to try to stay young.

Elly Kedward has a lot of support in deviant history if you look far enough, but the REAL meaning of witchcraft can be found in a more positive loving light. They have NOTHING to do with Satanism, except for the fact they're tired of being accused of it.

Hopefully I cleared at least some things up for some of you.

;D

[andrejaz]

i also don't think witchcraft is something bad, it's just some sort of religion, not evil

[xnickvampxwicca]

i am wiccan too

[whitewitch]

Hi, I am into witchcraft and the Wiccan religion too and I do not believe that it is evil. I used to have a very religious friend who believed it and many things I like are evil, which they are not. I am considering becoming a wiccan since I love everything that is nature and am extremely fascinated with magick, especially White Magick. I hope you will all make me feel welcome. By the way, in my opinion, I believe that Elly Kedward was a good person and not the monster she was claimed to be by the people of Blair.

[grant158]

if you guys take a look at all the evidence you will understand elli was not a witch, she was a serial killer but everyone was so caught up by witchcraft that by the time elli had been banished nobody was able to see the clear picture. Elli was a serial killer, It had nothing to do with majic and witchcraft hubbaballoo or whatever the clear fact is that shes a serial killer her killings were what her and everyone else believed to be ritualistic showcases of sorts like that one man who killed seven children and said a woman told him to do it he was simply following off of the myth she may have also came across sombody who was helping her within the village until she died and then that person may have temporarily messed up the water and planted those sticks continuously for a couple days simply to worry the town and maybe once he died the man who killed those seven children was simply telling the press what was going on when he said she told me to do it he was just maybe saying that he was continuing the tradition.With all that said i still do have a little bit of suspition behind the witchcraft due to all the strange occurences I also believe that to hide what we dont want to believe we use logic to describe the problem. -Grant