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Post by ghostprints on Oct 8, 2018 12:05:17 GMT -6
• Ghost EditionDownload available by request.What I like the most about my cut is that it's experienced from the character's own point-of-views. So the very ending becomes a massive shock - the same way it is for the characters themselves. It's arranged in the director's cut format (chronological) but without Heather's footage being labeled as fiction, without any foreshadowing of future events/reveals, and without any overly cheesy moments. "Book of Shadows" and "Shadow of the Blair Witch" stand as alternatives to the mythology, because they both brush aside Heather's project as a work of fiction - although based on real legends of the area. So I removed all references of Heather's project as being fiction. They heard the news reports about the three missing film students, and probably watched a documentary about it and the legends of the area, therefore it can be seen as existing within the same world as Heather, Mike and Josh being lost and never found. In other words, a true Blair Witch 2 ... something happening five years after they went missing. "Here in November, in this house of leaves ... we'll pray.".. • The Order of DeathOur story takes place over the course of 72 hours (three days) Jeff's "inaugural" Blair Witch tour group met around noon on Friday, November 12, 1999. Early in the morning on Saturday the 13th, they went out and killed the other tour group near Coffin Rock (all except for Tristen, who never killed anyone) Later that morning, the child within Tristen died. Late on Saturday the 13th, Kim killed the convenience store clerk (Peggy) on surveillance camera. On the next morning (Sunday the 14th) probably around 10am, Jeff killed Erica. Late on the night of the 14th, Stephen hung Tristen from the upper balcony. Early in the morning on Monday the 15th, the cavalry arrived at Jeff's home in search of Kim (the convenience store killer) only to find two more dead bodies in his home along with miscarriage blood in Jeff's van. The End. If there are any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to ask. * Oh... and most likely Jeff strangled Erica. And right after doing so (also .. most likely) he did "the deed" with her (necrophilia) Then right after that, he neatly set her clothes out on her floor with a candle, then pulled her panties back up and gently placed her into his closet. The reason Tristen had a miscarriage was because (the very night before) she had become possessed by an entity which was expelling the innocent child from her body. Most likely the two could not occupy the same space at the same time. I believe the Parr foundation was haunted, based upon the old tree being in the foundation, but I also believe it was Erica's chant which opened a door for their minds, actions, and memories to be controlled and manipulated.
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Post by lostinthewoods on Nov 1, 2018 23:37:23 GMT -6
You say tristen never killed any body, but you may not be so rite mr. Tenebris..tristen may have killed the owl, unless it died naturally, cus I don't think owls are that frendly there gonna let you hold then and dance around with them like she was during the camping trip, and all that was revealed during the movie was she was walking with a bundle with something in it to the water and it makes you think there's baby in it cus her crotch is bloody, but we don't know what happened, she appears to be in a "daze or trance" so who knows if she killed the "baby" her self.also the version of events in the "real world" not the "video world" she killed her self with the whole thing with her wrapping the rope around her neck and throwing her self off the walkway upstairs. So tristen doesn't look so inosent to me.
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 1, 2018 23:47:58 GMT -6
Technically, they were all innocent. Because none of them acted of their own accord.
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Post by lostinthewoods on Nov 5, 2018 11:11:07 GMT -6
There's one person who was not innocent, the mean lady at the grocery store who had the shopping cart full of cans of deviled ham who smashed into there cart and said something nasty.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 5, 2018 13:10:07 GMT -6
Also interesting to note that in the tapes, Kim kills the male Chinese tourist as well as the tour guide with the dark, short hair. In addition to Peggy, that gives her three kills... above and beyond anyone else. Erica had one (female German tourist), Stephen had two (female Chinese tourist, Tristen) and Jeff had two (long-haired tour guide, Erica).
And, no, I'm not going to count the owl as a kill.
And... if just saying something nasty and acting like a jerk costs you your innocence, Cravens is screwed, Peggy was screwed (if she was indeed that rude to Kim), the Blair Witch Walk tour guides were screwed, and the three teenagers are really screwed.
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 5, 2018 16:48:57 GMT -6
Thank you for that detailed Coffin Rock killing analysis. I already knew it, but it's good to have it listed here for reference fun. Also.. in that flashback footage they killed those tourists somewhere near Coffin Rock, then obviously dragged their bodies to the rock itself at the river and then set them up there. Incorrectly I might add, because they were supposed to have been laid out hands to ankles, not heads to heads. And as far as I could always tell, Kim chopped off the tour guide's penis (with the dark short hair) before she killed him. * how did I know his penis had dark short hair? Wouldn't inquiring minds like to know .. And the three rowdy teen boys in front of Peggy's store never killed anyone. And neither did Cravens. And neither did Ham Lady. (it actually lists her character as "Ham Lady" in the credits, unbelievably) When speaking of innocence, lostindawoods meant "having or not having the intent to murder." In fact, upon further thought .. those rowdy boys may have never really been there, just like the Burkittsville 7 that Kim saw ... or they were all really ghosts.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 5, 2018 17:25:06 GMT -6
In fact, upon further thought .. those rowdy boys may have never really been there, just like the Burkittsville 7 that Kim saw ... or they were all really ghosts. Unfortunately, we never get a real clear shot of the back driver's side window again for the remainder of the film (we get a brief glimpse of a sliver of it during the news crew taking a shot of the van, but it does not appear to be broken... which really doesn't confirm or deny anything considering that shot was likely filmed before it was broken... or the broken glass was removed or fell out as Kim drove back to Jeff's), so we'll never know. Either way, I say those teens deserved to die one way or another.
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 5, 2018 17:27:36 GMT -6
But they didn't! Cuz they was ghost teens sent to get Kim all riled up!
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 5, 2018 17:50:31 GMT -6
But they didn't! Cuz they was ghost teens sent to get Kim all riled up! Well, if they were ghost teens, then they did die somehow, someway before riling up Kim (which Peggy and Ham Lady did a much better job of. Kim just laughed the three idiot ghost teens off), so they deserved it!
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 5, 2018 18:05:40 GMT -6
I don't think they were ghosts, but I don't think they were really there either. - and neither were the Burkittsville 7 ..
I took it upon myself to run these original two trailers through my converter at 60% sharpening. The difference is like night and day, and better than anything else available for these.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 5, 2018 21:57:00 GMT -6
I always forget that we got a better background for Jeff in that two-minute teaser than we ever did in the movie.
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 5, 2018 23:13:38 GMT -6
You own the dossier, so stop complaining •• subject change •• my thread •• What you don't like about my cut is that - in your eyes - it's not the full-meal, original deal. But what you've always somehow failed to realize - is just how shitty the original movie really is. I literally took a hog of an animal and properly trimmed off all the necessary fat, leaving only a nice, lean-mean meal to enjoy, with nothing tasty and necessary being sacrificed in the process. Like testicles, penises, tongues, feet, and eyeballs. ... but somehow you still prefer the original, fatty and gross version. Wow.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 5, 2018 23:57:15 GMT -6
You own the dossier, so stop complaining Very true. But for those poor saps who don't and know nothing of the kidnapping angle... What you don't like about my cut is that - in your eyes - it's not the full-meal, original deal. But what you've always somehow failed to realize - is just how shitty the original movie really is. I literally took a hog of an animal and properly trimmed off all the necessary fat, leaving only a nice, lean-mean meal to enjoy, with nothing tasty and necessary being sacrificed in the process. Like testicles, penises, tongues, feet, and eyeballs. ... but somehow you still prefer the original, fatty and gross version. Wow. I think there is something else you're not taking into consideration: sentimental value. Book of Shadows came out on home media in 2001, and that was a very interesting year for me and contained a lot of personally eye-opening events. There is a lot from that year that I consider sacred and Book of Shadows may just be on that list for all I know, hence why the original cut is so near and dear to me. I remember renting it the day it came out at Blockbuster (VHS was released first, then the DVD+CD combo) because I wanted to see it so bad after watching the Blair Witch Webfest on Sci-Fi days before the theatrical release. I was so tired that day I didn't even remember the walk home (Blockbuster was about a 10-minute walk from my house at the time), so it really shouldn't have surprised me that I fell asleep trying to watch the movie instead of going to bed. I tried again the next day, and just fell in love with it, despite its shortcomings. There's more to it than that, more that made almost everything about that year important to me for one reason or another, including the original cut, but it isn't the kind of stuff I'm going to talk about on here or outside of my close circle of family and friends. I have never shown overall disdain for any of your cuts of the film, at all. As a matter of fact, I have done my best to make sure that I always have the most recent, polished, finalized version you have to offer. I may have been critical of a decision or two in your editing process, but that's kind of what I do. I see the good and bad in everything, and I don't shy away from sharing my findings in either category. Your efforts are still immensely appreciated by me, even if I don't exactly praise them as the best thing since sliced bread. There are a ton of things about your version that I whole-heartedly prefer over the original (the splicing of introductions being after the group picked up Kim being a big one). I am currently watching your latest cut, by the way.
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 6, 2018 0:37:45 GMT -6
Thank you for finally explaining in full. I really do appreciate it. But there is only one true cut of mine, and if it doesn't feature Carter Burwell's "Still in the Hills" in the beginning, than that ain't it. .. By the way, anyone who reads this in the future and is interested can send a message to either me or BlackHillsHermit for the link. BlackHillsHermit is my only authorized distributor BHH, please just change the link each time you give it out after about 24 hours. Humor me. Thanks.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 6, 2018 1:12:42 GMT -6
...if it doesn't feature Carter Burwell's "Still in the Hills" in the beginning, than that ain't it. Luckily, the cut we're talking about is one and the same. BHH, please just change the link each time you give it out after about 24 hours. Humor me. Thanks. Can and will do, good sir.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 6, 2018 1:20:38 GMT -6
By the way, I really liked your final cut here. It has been a while since I watched the one you had before, and it is gone now anyway, but I don't think a lot more was cut outside of maybe a few seconds overall and maybe a scene placement change or two. Did I miss anything big?
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 6, 2018 1:35:47 GMT -6
Nope. And again, I appreciate you deleting all the rough cuts .. for I know there have been many.
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Unless of course you decided to keep all 10 versions as a way of teaching a class how to edit an extremely difficult film. If you did that, you bastard.
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 6, 2018 1:43:41 GMT -6
Unless of course you decided to keep all 10 versions as a way of teaching a class how to edit an extremely difficult film. If you did that, you bastard. *to tenebris* What? No, of course not. Don't be silly. *to the rest of the members of the boards* Classes start in early January. Send me a PM to sign up before December. Cost will be discussed then.
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Post by Anarchist86ed on Nov 11, 2018 7:38:03 GMT -6
Fascinating.
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 12, 2018 13:33:19 GMT -6
Everyone just LuuuuVES the date of 10/21, but today is "BoS enter the woods day" : 11/12 !
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Post by Anarchist86ed on Nov 12, 2018 14:34:46 GMT -6
Why do you think that is?
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 12, 2018 15:29:14 GMT -6
because Book of Shadows sucked ..
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Post by BlackHillsHermit on Nov 13, 2018 3:29:46 GMT -6
because Book of Shadows sucked .. *gasp* Blasphemy!
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Post by ghostprints on Nov 15, 2018 21:48:34 GMT -6
Wild Turkey will do that. Damn. There's nothing like a long-haired blonde wearing all black... mmff ..
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Post by Tweek on Nov 16, 2018 18:07:47 GMT -6
Crazy chicks are hot. Just don't move them in with you. A word to the wise. In fact, never take them back to your place. Or tell them where you live. Because when it ends (and it will), you don't want that Super Saiyan-level pissed-off crazy energy directed at you. Or your expensive things...
Have I shared too much?
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