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Post by gator on Sept 30, 2012 18:59:43 GMT -6
Doubtfulman. I think that if it happens, then great but I really doubt it us going to happen. If lionsgate were interested in the franchise then why haven't we heard v if any update our sequel. lionsgate isn't interested in the blair witch. They boggy the company that made the most money for it and lionsgate is saying "nope we have SAW (honestly a terrible series after about three) we need no blair witch to boost our profits."
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Post by rewak on Oct 1, 2012 7:22:23 GMT -6
Well they've already dished out the money to do a HD transfer of it and they released TBWP, a movie shot almost entirely in standard def, to BD so it isn't out of the realms of possibility. Hoping for a full on directors cut is probably pie in the sky stuff but the deleted scenes maybe not, depends on how easy it would be to include them, for example do they exist only on film or is there a digital copy. My bet would be a digital copy exists in standard def since they had at least one deleted scene available online plus the ones included in the Shadows documentary. It might not happen until BD production becomes cheaper but i can definitely see it happening.
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Post by gator on Oct 3, 2012 14:04:53 GMT -6
It might who knows man
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Post by twana on Oct 20, 2012 13:01:12 GMT -6
It'll show up on Blu-ray eventually .. but don't expect a bunch of never-before-seen content.
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Post by Anarchist86ed on Oct 20, 2012 18:26:25 GMT -6
Probably won't see the scene that revealed it all was a dream.
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Post by gator on Mar 14, 2013 10:34:50 GMT -6
I recently bought the dossier and in it there is a part where jeff talks to erica on the wicca boards and in the middle of it the conversation stops. He asks for erica and no one says that there us a erica on the boards....even though there is a full conversation between the both if them where everyone could see it
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Post by Tweek on Mar 15, 2013 16:55:11 GMT -6
That is the one by D.A. Stern for Book of Shadows, right? I have that one but haven't read it in some time.
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Post by jakeman on Mar 16, 2013 3:40:18 GMT -6
Yes the book of shadows Dossier does kind of leave you with the feeling that Erica has more than a supernatural qualities to her, but I do believe that her character is used as misdirection much like Tristen was once Erica had been killed her off. But the feeling I get from her character was one of those poser people you know we have all met people who instead of being their true self they create a more traumatised portrait of themselves so they will be more sympathetic so they can attract more people. So in end her summoning Ellie was her name on the first tombstone
Erica did really symbolise the sexual attraction to the Blair witch hysteria as every character wanted her (even Tristan and Kim I mean look at Tristan smiling when they talk ok maybe platonic attraction but still it is attraction) each character symbolised some sort of obsession that comes with hysteria.
Steven and Tristan: Knowledge Jeff: Profit Kim: Peer pressure Erica: Sexual identity
That is just my opinion of a film that is 13 years old, now back to the subject I think she just made up the minister's daughter story as to further get attention and sympathy.
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Post by Tweek on Mar 16, 2013 8:42:41 GMT -6
It's likely that she lied about who she was. As do most people you meet over the internet. No?
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Post by jakeman on Mar 16, 2013 10:31:30 GMT -6
Yes that too
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Post by twana on Mar 17, 2013 21:41:23 GMT -6
You've lost me on the sexual stuff. Tristen, Kim, platonic attraction, Erica .. what?
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Post by Tweek on Mar 18, 2013 15:34:54 GMT -6
I need that one explained also.
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Post by (♇)luto on Aug 5, 2014 23:22:40 GMT -6
The five were trapped in a series of collective, induced hallucinations from (at least) the moment that they arrived at the foundations of Rustin Parr's house. One of the major mysteries of the film revolves around Erica Geerson. In the later half of the film, Erica disappears and Jeff calls the Episcopal church where her "father" supposedly works as a minister. It is discovered that the minister has no children. This event is witnessed by both Kim and Stephen. The film never explains who she really was and why she gave them a false name/background. The difficulty with assuming that she really did provide a fake identity is that the three people who witnessed the "phone call" to the Minister were all trapped in a massive hallucination at the time, one of the main purposes of which was to turn them against one another. It is easily arguable that the phone call was part of the hallucination. However, there are two problems with that theory: 1) By this time, Erica was already murdered. Therefore, there would be no reason to try to turn the others against her. However, it's possible that the purpose of this would have simply been to further confuse/frighten them. It would also serve to give Jeff's paranoia a target (Erica) that would cause a serious rift between him and Kim (who liked Erica). 2) There is nothing in the final, interrogation scenes that suggests this incident was a hallucination. In fact, there is even evidence in those scenes to support the idea that the police were not able to confirm that her name was "Erica". During Jeff's interrogation, the interrogating officer says: And, um...what about the redhead? She was a real pretty girl. She wouldn't put out or something?Why is she addressed as "the redhead" and not "Erica"? When Kim's interrogator brought up the convenience store murder, his first sentence was: "Let's talk about... Peggy"Now, the police were aware that Jeff knew Erica. However, they had no way of knowing that Kim knew or recalled a name she would have only seen on a name tag for several seconds. The name "Peggy" would have less of a psychological effect on Kim than the name "Erica" would have on Jeff. Another strange aspect of the film that relates to this is the files that were found in Jeff's drawer and later found to be police files. While the files of Stephen and Kim are opened, we never see inside Erica's file. Would it establish her true identity? Does anyone have any ideas as to why Erica provided the group with a fake identity?I'm not sure If anyone has the BW2 Dossier, or if it's considered canon...But in an email excerpt from the dossier It does mention that Jeff sends a brochure to an address given to him by Erica in Munsville IL, but he states that it was returned as address unknown. This was before they actually met and would suggest that she did lie from the beginning, not much else is revealed about her origins tho and a reason for lying is also not suggested.
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Post by Tweek on Aug 6, 2014 10:20:27 GMT -6
My theory is that Erica was truthful and was who she said. At the time of the phone call to check on Erica, the group was deep into the delusion/hallucination/hearing things stage. The call didn't take place and was just one more delusion. If the witch can edit video then faking a phone call would be no problem. There was also a point when Cravens supposedly called and when Jeff opened the door he wasn't there (only the barking dogs, which also vanished). I don't think those files in Jeff's desk were really there either. At that point nothing they were seeing and hearing was real.
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Post by (♇)luto on Aug 6, 2014 19:39:09 GMT -6
Do you think the Dossier shouldn't be considered canon then? Or If it is canon do you think that the "address unknown" issue was coincidental. I'm sure it wasn't mentioned in the dossier for no reason, but then again dossier wasn't written by the people involved with the film. I do like the dossier though, It adds a good amount of supplementary information and backgrounds on the characters that is quite interesting. A lot about Jeff prior to Bw2 also. Another small detail I noticed when I looked thru the book again was that, In her "Blair witch Hunt" sign up form, she was the only person among them who checked off to not share her in formation with the tour group as opposed to having her info open to the others.
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Post by Tweek on Aug 7, 2014 10:16:59 GMT -6
I am going only by what is in the film itself. I have the BW2 dossier but am not well versed in it. I've read it once. Maybe twice.
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Post by twana on Aug 21, 2014 15:47:39 GMT -6
Does the dossier cover the movie itself? .. if it does then it's not canon because the movie is only a "recreation of events" that are "documented" in Shadow of the Blair Witch. .. so in the end, trying to figure out the movie only leads to an infinate loop of confusion. Why and how things really happened in "The Black Hills Murders" will never be known.
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Post by simon on Jan 23, 2017 17:20:15 GMT -6
Does the dossier cover the movie itself? .. if it does then it's not canon because the movie is only a "recreation of events" that are "documented" in Shadow of the Blair Witch. .. so in the end, trying to figure out the movie only leads to an infinate loop of confusion. Why and how things really happened in "The Black Hills Murders" will never be known. The opening sequence of Book of Shadows asserts that it's a recreation based on law enforcement records, local T.V. footage and hundreds of taped interviews. Shouldn't we then presume that this material, like the material in the dossier, is to some extent canon to the universe Shadow exists in? I'm saying that whether or not that strange phone call actually took place, we can presume that it's something Jeff, Kim and/or Stephen attested to at some point in the aftermath. I think that Berlinger's intention was probably to show us that Erica, like the others, aren't the characters we see on screen any more than the people we meet are really who we think they are. People are entirely different when we're not interacting with them (in real life) or seeing them onscreen: This may also be why her character had no real depth - she was simply "the wiccan." However, was Erica Geerson merely a character with no depth or a character who only showed us (and everyone else) a cardboard cutout of what she wanted us to see? And if it's the latter, can we really say she isn't capable of murder? Kind of like the pedophile priest who in his interactions with others simply gives voice to his faith but who is obviously so much else when we're not watching. This doesn't explain the webchat transcript at all, though - but that wasn't part of Berlinger's vision. Sure makes for good fuel to get tripped out..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 16:02:07 GMT -6
Stephen heard her. Listening carefully you can hear Stephen's response after Erica tells them about her dad in Munnsville.
He says: "oh my god.."
The phone call to Erica's father's assistant didn't really happen. Just like most of their experiences didn't really happen. Only in their own minds.
The viewer is guided through the story from the character's point of views.
What DID happen was everything on video they were later convicted of.
I do not believe Erica lied about anything at all.
But I DO believe she accidentally awoke the evil with her chant.
I also believe that Heather awoke the evil when she read the story of the Coffin Rock massacre at the very location of Coffin Rock.
As for BW16, I believe Lane awoke the evil when he was building his own stick figures away from camp. That is the exact moment when the first cracking sound and vibration in the forest is heard and felt.
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